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"Hillary's Support Grows Day By Day (Across the Board)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-15 23:51:15

As many of you know in which he expressed support for Hillary's position on Iran. Additionally expressing the same thoughts. I'm glad to see them coming out in give of Hillary's stand on this air and in looking at other things on the net - and the recent polls - I'm finding Hillary's got more and more support out there. I had the pleasure of meeting a Huffington affix regular at the CGI conference last week - I was very impressed with Dave Johnson and I wish I'd discovered his writing on Huffington Post earlier. He really seems to know his stuff. HillaryHub posted a cerebrate to something he and a colleague posted on Oct. 3rd and I think this points to a few of the reasons Hillary's been so successful in her campaign thus far. It also points to how hard Hillary's been working and with every transfer she shakes and with every voter who actually LOOKS AT HER preserve she wins folks over one at a time. This is Senator Clinton's primary challenge. Because since this strategy has been deployed no one not one single politician has been in the eye of the machine longer than Senator Clinton. For almost 15 years. Americans undergo been bombarded with smears and negative commentary about her. Virtually every aspect of her life personal and political from her hairstyle to private decisions she made within her marriage has been criticized. She and her staff rolled up their sleeves and went to bring home the bacon. One voter at a measure one appearance at a time one county one govern one state. And what happened in New York express was a pretty good precursor to what is happening nationally. Grudgingly we hear from senior populate in other campaigns that they are impressed at how hard she works how good her team is how they keep working all day every day. They're alter. She's top in the polls and in the fundraising go not because of some unforeseeable arrange of events; she's there because she understood the reality of her situation and she has outworked everyone else. She didn't attempt to hit the contradict perception as much as she shattered it softly and slowly -- one person at a time. I can't add much to this write-up except to say that here on the ground in Maryland it's almost as if it's October 2008 - not 2007. We all see how hard Hillary and her staff are working to win over hearts & minds and that attitude is contagious. We wear our buttons proudly every time we leave the house and if someone asks us about Hillary we can't wait to talk her up with our neighbors friends & family (change surface strangers!). We hold house parties and go to parades & local festivals to write up other volunteers sell buttons & t-shirts and pass out stickers & literature. And we create verbally on blogs desire this because we're passionate about our candidate. As many of you experience. Hillary won re-election to her Senate lay by winning over 67% of the voters in New York last year. She would undergo won without the margin of victory in the city and took 36 of the 40 counties won by Bush in 2004. A lot of republicans and independents voted for her and that's a testament to how hard she worked to get her message out and meet people one on one. This strategy continues to work to her advantage today. ABC News just posted an bind in which they investigate her dramatic gains in support among male voters. Mark Halperin. ABC News political analyst and editor-at-large for Time Magazine suggests that her gender doesn't matter. "Men shopping for a Democratic presidential candidate are looking for someone tough someone smart and someone who can get the White accommodate back from the Republicans," Halperin said. "Hillary Clinton right now looks the strongest on those fronts. The fact that she is a she does not seem to matter much for many men." analyse out the linked videos off the top-right of this article - especially her converse re "evil & bad men" - priceless! They've also got a link to her speech before the Carnegie Institution for Science yesterday. PRINCETON. NJ -- Sen. Hillary Clinton who currently leads the Democratic go for the 2008 presidential nomination by more than 20 percentage points in a USA Today/Gallup survey is also chosen by Democrats (including Democratic-leaning independents) as the candidate best able to handle many national issues. In fact according to the latest Gallup adorn survey. Democrats realise Clinton as the best prepared of the top three Democratic contenders to command 13 of 17 different challenges that could face the next president. Clinton Obama Edwards % % %Being commander-in-chief of the military 38 28 28Energy and the environment 43 23 26Healing political divisions in the country 34 37 23Taxes 48 25 20The economy 60 16 19Immigration 39 31 18Reforming the way the government in Washington works 38 37 18Healthcare 65 14 17Terrorism 49 26 17The situation in Iraq 47 31 17Crime 43 31 17Inspiring Americans 34 44 17Education 58 21 16Relations with other countries 54 28 14Gay marriage 51 19 13Abortion 61 14 11go relations 30 58 8Average 47 28 18 These numbers aren't flukes or outliers folks. She's consistently performed strong in poll after poll after poll and her numbers are climbing with each new poll that's released. Now I experience at the end of the day the only polls that count are the ones held on primary & election day but as a Hillary supporter. I'm encouraged by how strong a campaign she's been running. Hillary's gaining ground on all levels - I'm change surface seeing an increase in support for her here on this site since I started writing about her campaign in June. And I'm convinced that it's due in large move to people cutting through the air - looking at her record and her proposals - and maybe even meeting her at her many race appearances or seeing how come up she performs in the debates. I've said it before and I'll say it again - take a look at who's and.. because the more you know about Hillary Clinton - the more impressed your going to be. I don't need her to say she's sorry--I'd just desire her to admit she made a mistake. After 7 years of a President who can't adjudge mistakes the last thing we be is another President who can't adjudge mistakes. I've heard her say that. What I want to comprehend her say is. "change surface knowing what I knew then I was wrong." Just what does she know now that she didn't know then other than the lack of WMD's? It was a stupid naive and irresponsible vote born out of political cowardice. Personally. I like the fact that she takes responsibility for her vote. She stands up and says she direct the choose instead of trying to wipe it away. But if you be to choose for a candidate who was in a lay to vote and who didn't vote in favor of the AUMF you have a choice in this election: Dennis Kucinich. She cast the choose with the caveat which was spelled out in the AUMF that exhaustive diplomatic efforts were to occur before any military challenge that inspectors were to be let back in to report on the existence of WMDs that the UN would be heavily involved in the process. Bush did not stick to his promises. Now some of you make it easy on yourselves by stating: "Well if she trusted furnish's word then she is incompetent. Either way she is not a good choice bla bla bla." That is making it yourself a bit too easy. Colin Powell was probably THE most respected political/miltary figure in the US at the measure a man whose word was trusted on both sides of the aisles and across the country. When he sold his "goods" at the UN that was probably the pivotal moment in that ordeal as the promises Bush had made to the Democratic delegation (which included co-sponsor John Edwards) had become credible because of Powell's professional reputation and honesty underlying it. Well just desire her new candidate Edwards one flip-flop after another. Flip-flopper attracts flip-floppers. LOL. The most amusing thing is for those Edwards supporters to claim he has the most grassroots give. If that's the case based on those silly kos polls why can't this guy raise money from small donors from internet? Clinton beats him. Obama beats him. Ron Paul beats him change surface freaking Thompson beats him on online donations. George all the other cram you did say was egest. It doesn't matter what a politician says it matters what they do. And Hillary voted yea. Caveats don't count when it comes to legislation. You experience this is adjust. And I meant no personal relate by my comment. But I have to say that while I do respect you I am disappointed that you don't at least try to govern in areyouready from time to time. It would collide with up my respect for you immensely. I evaluate that others here would agree with me as well. would use exhaustive diplomatic efforts is the cerebrate that people criticize her for a lack of judgment here. NOBODY else in the country believed that bush would fag all other means before invading everybody else understood that furnish would invade when he felt like it -- that's what his doctrine of unilateral action meant. her failure to take such a cowboy at his word (that he would invade unilaterally if necessary) is really disconcerting -- especially when she was really quite alone in doing so and she's shown no willingness to reconsider her lack of judgment here this is not just about her choose giving bush the authority to invade but her failure to understand what her vote meant. it's not desire furnish is the only cowboy in the world it's beat of them you have to hope that hillary surrounds herself with much smarter people than she had in 2002 if she's to be president she's demonstrated some serious flaws in her political judgment since she's been on the re-create... I'll fasten to my belief that although people might admire you for saying you are wrong they won't vote on you for President because of it- she should never apologize and her say on it seems legitimate to me and what she basically said in her floor speech when she made the vote. Al Gore took a big hit when he started one of the later debates apologizing for making up part of his answer in the debate before. It took me a few days to get over that thinking maybe he was not Presidential material. I'm my own man and I give Senator Clinton because of her strong positions on social liberalism because she is strong on national security and a has both the experience and proper judgment to lead this country. She is tough cause to be perceived and ready to lead. Anyone with an eye and an ear can she that by her talent she surrounds herself with and the exceptional management of her campaign. John Edwards is sucking up to the netroots trying to 'play' them in the primary by 'apologizing' (or 'admitting his mistake' whatever). He's trying to hit a triple bank longshot into the convention. I say twelve minutes into his convention communicate. Edwards would blow off MoveOn. Anyone for ten minutes? She just knows exceed than to capitulate to the netroots. She knows the netroots are lying when they say they would stop hating her if she 'apologizes'. the gop has extensive video of her saying this and that in anticipation of her run there has never been a candidate as thoroughly oppo'ed as hillary will be we'll see plenty of flip-flop commercials from the gop but this time it won't be metaphorical it ordain be with her own words from her own communicate... her whole. "If I knew then what I know now" thing is it's an excuse. She's implying that her vote was the alter thing to do given the information she had at the time. What she's really saying is she didn't make a mistake at all she just had bad information. BALONEY. Karen (Alegre) is NOT AT ALL like Areyouready. What is going on with you today? Geez man. We are GETTING that you suddenly now hate Clinton and her supporters with a passion. It is weird in a way but your deal/prerogative. Just don't start lashing out at everybody/everything. Post your thoughts let others post theirs no need for all this "are all you hillary supporters stupid?" type stuff. You experience arouse well how ridiculous some of the attacks aimed at you were when you were a Hillary supporter on here. I don't hate anyone George except maybe republicans with a frickin passion. I act exception to the label Hillary haters. I have supported the woman so how can I now dislike her? I disagree with her on the war and on Iran immensely. And I will do everything in my power to argue her getting the nomination. But I don't dislike her and I would acknowledge you and the rest not placing that label upon me. What I said about Alegre is that what she posted with the misspelled words looked exactly like something areyouready would post. A sloppy careless affix. I don't know Karen. But I do know she told someone to fuck off a few days ago and then had that post deleted so no evidence of it exists any longer. And she calls herself the leader of the Hillary bloggers. So if the leader acts that way how do you evaluate the be of us to treat her supporters? Your opinion is that we should NOT question the motives and actions of our elected representatives or we will end up with a republican majority. If that ain't Rovian I don't experience what the hell is. Do you Hillary supporters ever change surface listen to what you are saying? That's what I've been saying all along. It didn't stop me from campaigning for Kerry/Edwards in 2004. And it didn't stop Daily Kos either. I object to people buying Edwards' phoney apology giving him a pass on his war vote while attacking Clinton for hers. Edwards would probably be doing better if his ass was getting burned for his war vote. Giving him a pass makes him look like a joke to anyone not drinking the anti-Hillary Kool-Aid. The thing is that just like the ABC/WaPo survey this latest Gallup shows that Clinton has a dramatic ~40% lead over her competitors when it comes to health care. She already has a huge bring about on education the economy etc. Also on terrorism and Iraq. I just think if you be at the internals of these polls with those dramatic competetive advantages within the most important issues Democrats care about you have your answer why she is ahead in the polls. That is not likely to change these leads are way too large for that to happen. Mrs Clinton is not only the front-runner. She is come up on the way to becoming a prohibitive front-runner. This is an extraordinary situation for all sorts of reasons. The race ought to be wide change state: it is the first time that neither party has an incumbent in the form of a vice-president since 1928. The rise of the netroots has transferred political cater from the Washington establishment to smaller donors. And America is in an anti-establishment mood: the Democratic Congress has even lower approval ratings at about 27% than George furnish. Yet Mrs Clinton has all the advantages of an incumbent from a mark name to an established political machine without many of the disadvantages. And this too is odd since she is one of the most hated figures in American politics. During the 1990s she embodied everything that conservatives dislike about female professionals: a bossy harridan who disparaged stay-at-home mothers tried to reorganise the health-care system that makes up one-seventh of the American economy and stayed with her tom-catting husband to advance her political ambitions. Conservative conferences regularly feature loo-paper with Hillary's face on it and Hillary trolls to throw balls at. CafePress a web retailer is selling more than 100,000 anti-Hillary items including a "Hillary is the Devil" beer stein. But Hillary-hatred is by no means confined to the alter. David Geffen a Hollywood mogul gave voice to a widespread feeling on the left when he complained about the Clintons' relationship with truth. "Everybody in politics lies," he told the New York Times. "But they do it with such go it's troubling." Mrs Clinton has some of the highest negatives of any politician in the business. She has also devoted a lot of effort to improving her celebrate's infrastructure. She helped John Podesta her preserve's former chief of staff to found a think-tank the Centre for American Progress which is a ready obtain of ideas and talent. She also supported the American Democracy Institute which is run by veteran Clinton allies and Media Matters for America a media watchdog group which was founded by David Brock a former Clinton-hater turned Clintonite. All this helped to ensure that for all the energy unleashed by the netroots and Al Gore the Washington Democratic establishment has remained a wholly owned subsidiary of the Clinton family. What does the possibility of a Clinton restoration mean for America? Everything depends on whether Mrs Clinton can translate her air of competence into reality. The Clinton White House be it remembered lurched from crisis to crisis some of them of Mrs Clinton's creation. It is also worth remembering that Mr Bush sold himself as an MBA president surrounded by political veterans. But three things are already clear--one positive and two contradict. The positive is that Mrs Clinton would break America's highest glass ceiling. Women undergo made their mark in almost every area of American life from the Senate (16 currently) to the House (74 including the speaker) to the governor's office (nine). Madeleine Albright and Condoleezza sieve have both been secretary of state. In that consider a woman president would undoubtedly be a good thing for the country. But there is a downside: dynasty. If Mrs Clinton wins the White House in 2008 members of the furnish and Clinton families ordain have been president for 24 years on the trot. Over 100m Americans have never known anybody but a furnish or a Clinton in the White House. If Mrs Clinton wins re-election that 24 years will increase to 28. Americans are remarkably insouciant about this development. They should not be. It suggests that American political life is in the hands of a small group of insiders who are organised around semi-royal families. And it divides America into "players" who control political life and "observers" who simply comment on it. The dynastification of American politics is happening at a time when economic inequalities are growing and the "haves" are proving increasingly successful at transmitting their privileges to their children. The other contradict side is that it freezes American political life. One of the virtues of the American political system is that it is supposed to produce shake-ups whenever a new president takes over. Mrs Clinton will bring back the same direct of characters that everybody wearied of in the 1990s from slick money-raisers like Terry McAuliffe to professional conservative-haters like Sidney Blumenthal. approve in 1993 Jacob Weisberg writing in the New Republic accused the Clinton team of "Clincest"--being a "tight hermetic and incestuous clique" who went to the same universities and hung out at the same Democratic gabfests. Mrs Clinton's election will not only perpetuate "Clincest" for another four or eight years; it ordain also add another dollop of ageing baby-boomer self-satisfaction. During a race speech earlier this year Mr Clinton remarked that he once told Hillary when they were both students at Yale that "I have met all the most gifted populate in our generation and you're the best." This choose of attitude will be difficult to be with. The Clintonites undergo already brought back some of their old bad habits. Mrs Clinton had to go $850,000 from a fund-raiser called Norman Hsu who turned out to be a fugitive. But even more dispiriting will be the continuing polarisation of American politics. Mrs Clinton may undergo damped drink Hillary-hatred for a while. But it is sure to revive if she starts appointing Supreme Court justices. And Mrs Clinton is comfort surrounded by the same fanatically loyal and combative staff that she had in the 1990s. America will be stuck not just in the same tired culture war but also in the same grow war fought by the same characters. The potential for further alienation from politics particularly after the Bush years will be huge. Mrs Clinton is clearly a formidable candidate for the presidency. She has the most powerful name in the business now that the Bush brand is tarnished. She has a smoothly working political machine. She has a wealth of experience in both the legislative and the executive branch. And she exudes competence. All told she looks likely to translate this into both the Democratic nomination and a victory in November 2008. But whether a Clinton restoration will be good for America is a much more difficult challenge. The first year of the account Clinton administration is why I displace so much weight on White accommodate undergo this time around. Newbies always stumble around trying to adjust to the go of the pro game to get an effective staff in displace and to get up and running. Hillary has been there done that and learned from the mistakes that all rookies make. She'll be able to hit the ground running from day one. Clinton started to get his sea legs after the first year. When he started shaking up his staff bringing in some Washington veterans like David Gergan in communications and Leon Panetta to be Chief of cater. It's the same mistake that every rookie President makes.. trying to bring in all the populate from back home who promptly get rolled by the Washington media and Capitol Hill. Carter made the same mistakes. They all do. An example of this kind of naivete is one of the Democratic candidates who is promising to get Congress to choose to cut off their own health compassionate. Yeah right. Walk into the White House with that attitude and they'll eat you alive. atypical i can't think of another person who assumed the presidency who didn't undergo a plan for his first few months in office (you have to strike while the iron is hot) or was as ineffective in implementing it as clinton to assume that every other candidate who wins the white accommodate will be as inept as bill clinton was in his first year is folly that's like assuming that every first pick in the nfl draft will be like ryan peruse... But. I do believe she is on her way to the nomination. You can conclude rank & file democrats are now consolidating with institutional democrats. Her campaign reminds me of the GOP primary in 1999. Ironically her strength reminds me of a man named Gov. George W. Bush in 1999. This is Not John Kerry of 04 or Gore of 00 in terms of concern with personality political skills being likeable to your average american. Let's put it this way she is much more electable than Kerry or even pierce was in 2000. ( and Gore really won) That's the frightening possibility for Obama and Edwards.. and why they are going nuts with their attacks. This week at Edwards rallies and on TV campaign spokesmen are saying. "The Clintons screwed us!". Pretty desperate cram. At a certain inform. Democrats are going to mentally move beyond the primary battle and start engaging the thoughts of a very strong frontrunner taking it to the Republicans. If (when) that happens. Obama and Edwards will be toast. Those are opinions on which candidate is beat on the "issues." "Issues" opinions take a very long time to change around years. It is very unlikely that either Obama or Edwards would at any point gain the upperhand on "health compassionate," "education," "Abortion," "the economy," etc. Also don't drop that December is traditionally a "frozen polls" month when it comes to nomination (as people concentrate on family holiday preparations etc.) The next month should be exciting for Hillary supporters- I expect the endorsements to start pouring in especially after her great fundraising numbers. Democrats will want to start consolidating behind someone to alter for the command Election and she is now the logical choice for that. The polls should show her getting stronger and stronger and I can't wait to see the new ones(I know some people don't believe in polls but I do especially when my candidate has broken 50 percent in the national ones) I think if she makes it thru October to Mid-Nov with her lead intact she will more than likely secure the nomination. I think the whole family first-politics never starts in the week leading up to Thanksgiving. You're either the host of a big dinner or you making jaunt plans to go to the big dinner. This then slides into the Holidays which eats up much of December and the beginning of Jan. The news will be dominated by holiday stories about where to get really good fruitcake and the house with a million lights. Edwards has been coming on strong with the attacks this week. I'm definitely waiting see who (Hill herself or a surrogate) hits back on her behalf. He really has a small window to get noticed so I understand why he is starting the attacks now. but I'm spending more time on the conservative sites these days. The strategy is to tag her as far left. 'socialist' and ironically cerebrate her to MoveOn. I call her a 'Super Atomic Security Mom'. This whole right-left extremist anti-Hillary cartel might work to her favor. It's the extremists on both wings who hate Hillary -- she has the vital dynamic center. What's a good strategy for male independents/blue clutch male dems--to get past any latent sexism? (1) HRC is smart and tough and (2) these men undergo daughters they love. "She could grow up to be President."

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"Hillary's Support Grows Day By Day (Across the Board)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-15 23:51:15

As many of you know in which he expressed give for Hillary's position on Iran. Additionally expressing the same thoughts. I'm glad to see them coming out in support of Hillary's stand on this issue and in looking at other things on the net - and the recent polls - I'm finding Hillary's got more and more give out there. I had the pleasure of meeting a Huffington Post regular at the CGI conference last week - I was very impressed with Dave Johnson and I wish I'd discovered his writing on Huffington Post earlier. He really seems to experience his stuff. HillaryHub posted a link to something he and a colleague posted on Oct. 3rd and I think this points to a few of the reasons Hillary's been so successful in her campaign thus far. It also points to how hard Hillary's been working and with every hand she shakes and with every voter who actually LOOKS AT HER preserve she wins folks over one at a time. This is Senator Clinton's primary challenge. Because since this strategy has been deployed no one not one single politician has been in the eye of the machine longer than Senator Clinton. For almost 15 years. Americans undergo been bombarded with smears and negative commentary about her. Virtually every aspect of her life personal and political from her hairstyle to private decisions she made within her marriage has been criticized. She and her cater rolled up their sleeves and went to bring home the bacon. One voter at a time one appearance at a time one county one district one express. And what happened in New York State was a pretty good precursor to what is happening nationally. Grudgingly we hear from senior people in other campaigns that they are impressed at how hard she works how good her team is how they act working all day every day. They're right. She's top in the polls and in the fundraising race not because of some unforeseeable chain of events; she's there because she understood the reality of her situation and she has outworked everyone else. She didn't attempt to hit the negative perception as much as she shattered it softly and slowly -- one person at a time. I can't add much to this write-up except to say that here on the fasten in Maryland it's almost as if it's October 2008 - not 2007. We all see how hard Hillary and her cater are working to win over hearts & minds and that attitude is contagious. We wear our buttons proudly every time we get the house and if someone asks us about Hillary we can't wait to talk her up with our neighbors friends & family (change surface strangers!). We hold house parties and go to parades & local festivals to sign up other volunteers change buttons & t-shirts and pass out stickers & literature. And we create verbally on blogs like this because we're passionate about our candidate. As many of you know. Hillary won re-election to her Senate seat by winning over 67% of the voters in New York last year. She would have won without the margin of victory in the city and took 36 of the 40 counties won by Bush in 2004. A lot of republicans and independents voted for her and that's a testament to how hard she worked to get her communicate out and meet people one on one. This strategy continues to bring home the bacon to her advantage today. ABC News just posted an article in which they examine her dramatic gains in support among male voters. attach Halperin. ABC News political analyst and editor-at-large for Time Magazine suggests that her gender doesn't matter. "Men shopping for a Democratic presidential candidate are looking for someone tough someone smart and someone who can get the White accommodate back from the Republicans," Halperin said. "Hillary Clinton alter now looks the strongest on those fronts. The fact that she is a she does not seem to be much for many men." Check out the linked videos off the top-right of this bind - especially her interview re "evil & bad men" - priceless! They've also got a link to her speech before the Carnegie Institution for Science yesterday. PRINCETON. NJ -- Sen. Hillary Clinton who currently leads the Democratic race for the 2008 presidential nomination by more than 20 percentage points in a USA Today/Gallup poll is also chosen by Democrats (including Democratic-leaning independents) as the candidate best able to handle many national issues. In fact according to the latest Gallup Panel survey. Democrats realise Clinton as the best prepared of the top three Democratic contenders to handle 13 of 17 different challenges that could face the next president. Clinton Obama Edwards % % %Being commander-in-chief of the military 38 28 28Energy and the environment 43 23 26Healing political divisions in the country 34 37 23Taxes 48 25 20The economy 60 16 19Immigration 39 31 18Reforming the way the government in Washington works 38 37 18Healthcare 65 14 17Terrorism 49 26 17The situation in Iraq 47 31 17Crime 43 31 17Inspiring Americans 34 44 17Education 58 21 16Relations with other countries 54 28 14Gay marriage 51 19 13Abortion 61 14 11Race relations 30 58 8add up 47 28 18 These numbers aren't flukes or outliers folks. She's consistently performed strong in survey after poll after poll and her numbers are climbing with each new poll that's released. Now I know at the end of the day the only polls that count are the ones held on primary & election day but as a Hillary supporter. I'm encouraged by how strong a campaign she's been running. Hillary's gaining ground on all levels - I'm even seeing an increase in support for her here on this site since I started writing about her campaign in June. And I'm convinced that it's due in large part to populate cutting through the hype - looking at her record and her proposals - and maybe change surface meeting her at her many race appearances or seeing how well she performs in the debates. I've said it before and I'll say it again - act a look at who's and.. because the more you know about Hillary Clinton - the more impressed your going to be. I don't need her to say she's sorry--I'd just like her to admit she made a identify. After 7 years of a President who can't admit mistakes the last thing we need is another President who can't adjudge mistakes. I've heard her say that. What I want to hear her say is. "Even knowing what I knew then I was do by." Just what does she know now that she didn't know then other than the lack of WMD's? It was a stupid naive and irresponsible vote born out of political cowardice. Personally. I like the fact that she takes responsibility for her vote. She stands up and says she direct the vote instead of trying to wipe it away. But if you be to vote for a candidate who was in a position to vote and who didn't choose in favor of the AUMF you have a choice in this election: Dennis Kucinich. She direct the vote with the caveat which was spelled out in the AUMF that exhaustive diplomatic efforts were to occur before any military action that inspectors were to be let back in to inform on the existence of WMDs that the UN would be heavily involved in the process. Bush did not stick to his promises. Now some of you make it easy on yourselves by stating: "come up if she trusted Bush's word then she is incompetent. Either way she is not a good choice bla bla bla." That is making it yourself a bit too easy. Colin Powell was probably THE most respected political/miltary evaluate in the US at the measure a man whose evince was trusted on both sides of the aisles and across the country. When he sold his "goods" at the UN that was probably the pivotal moment in that ordeal as the promises Bush had made to the Democratic delegation (which included co-sponsor John Edwards) had become credible because of Powell's professional reputation and honesty underlying it. Well just desire her new candidate Edwards one flip-flop after another. Flip-flopper attracts flip-floppers. LOL. The most amusing thing is for those Edwards supporters to affirm he has the most grassroots support. If that's the inspect based on those silly kos polls why can't this guy raise money from small donors from internet? Clinton beats him. Obama beats him. Ron Paul beats him change surface freaking Thompson beats him on online donations. George all the other stuff you did say was egest. It doesn't matter what a politician says it matters what they do. And Hillary voted yea. Caveats don't count when it comes to legislation. You experience this is adjust. And I meant no personal relate by my comment. But I have to say that while I do respect you I am disappointed that you don't at least try to reign in areyouready from time to measure. It would collide with up my respect for you immensely. I evaluate that others here would accept with me as come up. would use exhaustive diplomatic efforts is the cerebrate that people criticize her for a lack of judgment here. NOBODY else in the country believed that furnish would exhaust all other means before invading everybody else understood that bush would invade when he felt like it -- that's what his doctrine of unilateral action meant. her failure to act such a cowboy at his word (that he would assail unilaterally if necessary) is really disconcerting -- especially when she was really quite alone in doing so and she's shown no willingness to reconsider her lack of judgment here this is not just about her vote giving bush the authority to invade but her failure to understand what her choose meant. it's not like furnish is the only cowboy in the world it's beat of them you have to hope that hillary surrounds herself with much smarter populate than she had in 2002 if she's to be president she's demonstrated some serious flaws in her political judgment since she's been on the stage... I'll stick to my belief that although people might esteem you for saying you are do by they won't vote on you for President because of it- she should never apologize and her answer on it seems allow to me and what she basically said in her floor speech when she made the vote. Al Gore took a big hit when he started one of the later debates apologizing for making up part of his answer in the debate before. It took me a few days to get over that thinking maybe he was not Presidential material. I'm my own man and I support Senator Clinton because of her strong positions on social liberalism because she is strong on national security and a has both the experience and proper judgment to lead this country. She is tough smart and ready to bring about. Anyone with an eye and an ear can she that by her talent she surrounds herself with and the exceptional management of her campaign. John Edwards is sucking up to the netroots trying to 'play' them in the primary by 'apologizing' (or 'admitting his identify' whatever). He's trying to hit a manifold bank longshot into the convention. I say twelve minutes into his convention address. Edwards would blow off MoveOn. Anyone for ten minutes? She just knows better than to capitulate to the netroots. She knows the netroots are lying when they say they would forbid hating her if she 'apologizes'. the gop has extensive video of her saying this and that in anticipation of her run there has never been a candidate as thoroughly oppo'ed as hillary will be we'll see plenty of flip-flop commercials from the gop but this measure it won't be metaphorical it will be with her own words from her own mouth... her whole. "If I knew then what I know now" thing is it's an forgive. She's implying that her vote was the right thing to do given the information she had at the time. What she's really saying is she didn't make a mistake at all she just had bad information. BALONEY. Karen (Alegre) is NOT AT ALL like Areyouready. What is going on with you today? Geez man. We are GETTING that you suddenly now hate Clinton and her supporters with a passion. It is weird in a way but your deal/prerogative. Just don't start lashing out at everybody/everything. affix your thoughts let others affix theirs no be for all this "are all you hillary supporters stupid?" write stuff. You KNOW arouse come up how ridiculous some of the attacks aimed at you were when you were a Hillary supporter on here. I don't hate anyone George except maybe republicans with a frickin passion. I take exception to the denominate Hillary haters. I undergo supported the woman so how can I now hate her? I disagree with her on the war and on Iran immensely. And I ordain do everything in my power to oppose her getting the nomination. But I don't dislike her and I would appreciate you and the be not placing that label upon me. What I said about Alegre is that what she posted with the misspelled words looked exactly like something areyouready would affix. A sloppy careless post. I don't know Karen. But I do know she told someone to fuck off a few days ago and then had that affix deleted so no evidence of it exists any longer. And she calls herself the leader of the Hillary bloggers. So if the leader acts that way how do you expect the be of us to treat her supporters? Your opinion is that we should NOT question the motives and actions of our elected representatives or we will end up with a republican majority. If that ain't Rovian I don't experience what the hell is. Do you Hillary supporters ever even comprehend to what you are saying? That's what I've been saying all along. It didn't stop me from campaigning for Kerry/Edwards in 2004. And it didn't stop Daily Kos either. I disapprove to people buying Edwards' phoney apology giving him a pass on his war vote while attacking Clinton for hers. Edwards would probably be doing exceed if his ass was getting burned for his war vote. Giving him a go makes him be like a joke to anyone not drinking the anti-Hillary Kool-Aid. The thing is that just like the ABC/WaPo poll this latest Gallup shows that Clinton has a dramatic ~40% lead over her competitors when it comes to health compassionate. She already has a huge bring about on education the economy etc. Also on terrorism and Iraq. I just think if you look at the internals of these polls with those dramatic competetive advantages within the most important issues Democrats care about you have your say why she is ahead in the polls. That is not likely to change these leads are way too large for that to happen. Mrs Clinton is not only the front-runner. She is well on the way to becoming a prohibitive front-runner. This is an extraordinary situation for all sorts of reasons. The race ought to be wide change state: it is the first time that neither party has an incumbent in the form of a vice-president since 1928. The rise of the netroots has transferred political power from the Washington establishment to smaller donors. And America is in an anti-establishment mood: the Democratic Congress has even lower approval ratings at about 27% than George Bush. Yet Mrs Clinton has all the advantages of an incumbent from a mark name to an established political forge without many of the disadvantages. And this too is odd since she is one of the most hated figures in American politics. During the 1990s she embodied everything that conservatives hate about female professionals: a bossy harridan who disparaged stay-at-home mothers tried to reorganise the health-care system that makes up one-seventh of the American economy and stayed with her tom-catting husband to further her political ambitions. Conservative conferences regularly feature loo-paper with Hillary's face on it and Hillary trolls to throw balls at. CafePress a web retailer is selling more than 100,000 anti-Hillary items including a "Hillary is the Devil" beer stein. But Hillary-hatred is by no means confined to the alter. David Geffen a Hollywood mogul gave voice to a widespread feeling on the left when he complained about the Clintons' relationship with truth. "Everybody in politics lies," he told the New York Times. "But they do it with such ease it's troubling." Mrs Clinton has some of the highest negatives of any politician in the business. She has also devoted a lot of effort to improving her celebrate's infrastructure. She helped John Podesta her husband's former chief of staff to open a think-tank the Centre for American Progress which is a ready obtain of ideas and talent. She also supported the American Democracy Institute which is run by veteran Clinton allies and Media Matters for America a media watchdog group which was founded by David Brock a former Clinton-hater turned Clintonite. All this helped to verify that for all the energy unleashed by the netroots and Al pierce the Washington Democratic establishment has remained a wholly owned subsidiary of the Clinton family. What does the possibility of a Clinton restoration mean for America? Everything depends on whether Mrs Clinton can translate her air of competence into reality. The Clinton color accommodate be it remembered lurched from crisis to crisis some of them of Mrs Clinton's creation. It is also worth remembering that Mr furnish sold himself as an MBA president surrounded by political veterans. But three things are already clear--one positive and two contradict. The positive is that Mrs Clinton would end America's highest glass ceiling. Women undergo made their mark in almost every area of American life from the Senate (16 currently) to the House (74 including the speaker) to the governor's office (nine). Madeleine Albright and Condoleezza Rice undergo both been secretary of state. In that respect a woman president would undoubtedly be a good thing for the country. But there is a downside: dynasty. If Mrs Clinton wins the White House in 2008 members of the furnish and Clinton families will have been president for 24 years on the trot. Over 100m Americans have never known anybody but a Bush or a Clinton in the White House. If Mrs Clinton wins re-election that 24 years will swell to 28. Americans are remarkably insouciant about this development. They should not be. It suggests that American political life is in the hands of a small group of insiders who are organised around semi-royal families. And it divides America into "players" who control political life and "observers" who simply comment on it. The dynastification of American politics is happening at a time when economic inequalities are growing and the "haves" are proving increasingly successful at transmitting their privileges to their children. The other negative side is that it freezes American political life. One of the virtues of the American political system is that it is supposed to produce shake-ups whenever a new president takes over. Mrs Clinton ordain carry back the same cast of characters that everybody wearied of in the 1990s from slick money-raisers like Terry McAuliffe to professional conservative-haters like Sidney Blumenthal. Back in 1993 Jacob Weisberg writing in the New Republic accused the Clinton aggroup of "Clincest"--being a "tight hermetic and incestuous clique" who went to the same universities and hung out at the same Democratic gabfests. Mrs Clinton's election will not only bear on "Clincest" for another four or eight years; it ordain also add another dollop of ageing baby-boomer self-satisfaction. During a campaign speech earlier this year Mr Clinton remarked that he once told Hillary when they were both students at Yale that "I undergo met all the most gifted people in our generation and you're the best." This choose of attitude ordain be difficult to be with. The Clintonites have already brought back some of their old bad habits. Mrs Clinton had to return $850,000 from a fund-raiser called Norman Hsu who turned out to be a fugitive. But even more dispiriting will be the continuing polarisation of American politics. Mrs Clinton may undergo damped down Hillary-hatred for a while. But it is sure to revive if she starts appointing Supreme act justices. And Mrs Clinton is still surrounded by the same fanatically loyal and combative cater that she had in the 1990s. America will be stuck not just in the same tired culture war but also in the same culture war fought by the same characters. The potential for advance alienation from politics particularly after the furnish years will be huge. Mrs Clinton is clearly a formidable candidate for the presidency. She has the most powerful label in the business now that the Bush brand is tarnished. She has a smoothly working political machine. She has a wealth of undergo in both the legislative and the executive branch. And she exudes competence. All told she looks likely to translate this into both the Democratic nomination and a victory in November 2008. But whether a Clinton restoration will be good for America is a much more difficult question. The first year of the Bill Clinton administration is why I place so much weight on White House experience this time around. Newbies always walk around trying to adjust to the speed of the pro game to get an effective cater in displace and to get up and running. Hillary has been there done that and learned from the mistakes that all rookies make. She'll be able to hit the fasten running from day one. Clinton started to get his sea legs after the first year. When he started shaking up his cater bringing in some Washington veterans like David Gergan in communications and Leon Panetta to be Chief of cater. It's the same mistake that every rookie President makes.. trying to carry in all the people from back domiciliate who promptly get rolled by the Washington media and Capitol Hill. Carter made the same mistakes. They all do. An example of this kind of naivete is one of the Democratic candidates who is promising to get Congress to vote to cut off their own health compassionate. Yeah right. Walk into the White House with that attitude and they'll eat you alive. atypical i can't think of another person who assumed the presidency who didn't have a plan for his first few months in office (you undergo to strike while the iron is hot) or was as ineffective in implementing it as clinton to assume that every other candidate who wins the white accommodate will be as inept as account clinton was in his first year is folly that's like assuming that every first pick in the nfl compose ordain be like ryan leaf... But. I do believe she is on her way to the nomination. You can feel be & file democrats are now consolidating with institutional democrats. Her campaign reminds me of the GOP primary in 1999. Ironically her strength reminds me of a man named Gov. George W. furnish in 1999. This is Not John Kerry of 04 or Gore of 00 in terms of concern with personality political skills being likeable to your average american. Let's put it this way she is much more electable than Kerry or even Gore was in 2000. ( and Gore really won) That's the frightening possibility for Obama and Edwards.. and why they are going nuts with their attacks. This week at Edwards rallies and on TV campaign spokesmen are saying. "The Clintons screwed us!". Pretty desperate stuff. At a certain point. Democrats are going to mentally act beyond the primary battle and go away engaging the thoughts of a very strong frontrunner taking it to the Republicans. If (when) that happens. Obama and Edwards ordain be toast. Those are opinions on which candidate is beat on the "issues." "Issues" opinions take a very long time to dress around years. It is very unlikely that either Obama or Edwards would at any inform gain the upperhand on "health care," "education," "Abortion," "the economy," etc. Also don't drop that December is traditionally a "frozen polls" month when it comes to nomination (as people concentrate on family holiday preparations etc.) The next month should be exciting for Hillary supporters- I evaluate the endorsements to start pouring in especially after her great fundraising numbers. Democrats will be to go away consolidating behind someone to prepare for the General Election and she is now the logical choice for that. The polls should show her getting stronger and stronger and I can't act to see the new ones(I know some people don't believe in polls but I do especially when my candidate has broken 50 percent in the national ones) I evaluate if she makes it thru October to Mid-Nov with her lead intact she will more than likely secure the nomination. I think the whole family first-politics never starts in the week leading up to Thanksgiving. You're either the host of a big dinner or you making travel plans to go to the big dinner. This then slides into the Holidays which eats up much of December and the beginning of Jan. The news ordain be dominated by holiday stories about where to get really good fruitcake and the house with a million lights. Edwards has been coming on strong with the attacks this week. I'm definitely waiting see who (Hill herself or a surrogate) hits back on her behalf. He really has a small window to get noticed so I understand why he is starting the attacks now. but I'm spending more measure on the conservative sites these days. The strategy is to tag her as far left. 'socialist' and ironically link her to MoveOn. I call her a 'Super Atomic Security Mom'. This whole right-left extremist anti-Hillary cartel might bring home the bacon to her advantage. It's the extremists on both wings who hate Hillary -- she has the vital dynamic bear on. What's a good strategy for male independents/color collar male dems--to get past any latent sexism? (1) HRC is cause to be perceived and tough and (2) these men have daughters they love. "She could change up to be President."

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"Barney Frank to Speak on ENDA Controversy" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 20:29:02

Representative Barney stamp will appear on 's Sirius to talk about the controversy surrounding the ENDA legislation. Jon Davidson of Lambda Legal will be on before stamp starting at 3:30 EST. You can get a remove three-day pass to Sirius. A week ago because the bill would not have enough votes to go with transgender people included. This understandably set off a firestorm in the LGBT community. On Monday pending advance assessment of reaction from the LGBT community. I've tried to interact some of the pieces I've run across regarding the controversy: bushel transgender HRC come in member Donna Rose on her resignation over HRC's position: [out for democracy] It boggles my object why populate wouldn't support transgender inclusion if they would support gay inclusion in the account.. so much f*cking prejudice. John Aravosis' essay (or commentary )on "when did transgendered" become part of the gay and lesbian community is absurd. When were they not? Transgendered AINT just dressing in clothes of the opposite sex. It's how you be walk talk move your hands sound of your voice. Because women are allowed to wear clothes that are androgynous in appearance it is very possible for a lesbian woman who does not believe herself to be transgendered to be considered such by everyone else and harassed on the job for it. People AINT thinkin'. Some folks would say Quentin Crisp. KD Lang. Martina Navatilova. Little Richard. Truman Copote. Rupaul. Divine were/are all examples of transgendered folk--not just gay. Everytime I hear or read someone question the "gayness" of feminine males and masculine females I feel like responding. "complain you exceed be over the age of sixty 'create if you aint how could possibly think you have some authority on this affect or knowledge of the history of "gay". Where the copulate were you in 1969? Wes most of the people who give getting a trans-less ENDA passed now—if we can in fact do it—are not prejudiced. We support employment protections for transfolk and ordain work to see them enacted as soon as possible. We have simply chosen a strategy that we believe ordain get the most people protections as soon as possible. I for one don't believe that passing a non-inclusive ENDA now will decelerate protections for transfolk significantly—if at all. It's simply a matter of getting more people in Congress comfortable with the idea of supporting trans protections. And I don't think delaying protections based on sexual orientation is going to make that come about a hit day sooner. It might make a lot of GLB people feel better to stand in solidarity with transfolk. But I evaluate it ordain do more actual good for more people (including transfolk in many cases )if we obtain the protections we can as soon as possible. Well someone just said something sensible. I wonder how desire before populate start talking about getting "thrown under a bus". What bull. (PS. If I never comprehend that expression again it ordain be too soon.) It's official. One is uncertain of the exact go out and time but it's official that the majority of the "vocal" LGBT community has lost their minds. Hypothetical situation. You and your furnish have just been fired from your jobs for being gay. You and your seven proud-of-their-two-dads kids are about to sit down to your spaghetti with no meatballs dinner which you bought with your measure money when there's pounding on the door by all your several cousins and their kids screaming "Where's the food?" You and your partner be at each other and then your scared children who've been living on peanut cover and crackers for days. The pounding and screaming outside continues. They're at the windows now threatening to break the glass. You say. "Maybe we'll get a new job tomorrow." Your furnish says. "What if we don't." You have a choice. cater your kids whom you can or not undergo enough today for everyone and nothing tomorrow. Starvation is a real possibility. What would you do? Food for some or starvation for everyone as they bleat about "pie in the sky." Most everyone knows how much I detest HRC. If anything they are more to blame than anyone else for failing to educate the public voters and Congress about transgenders so that we find ourselves in this situation. It's not Nancy Pelosi's responsibility. Nor any other Congressman or woman. They kinda undergo a beat plate as it is. But HRC is right this measure change surface if they did go about it the do by way. I have often flamed Barney stamp but he is more often right than wrong and he is right this measure. He has been in Congress longer than Tammy Baldwin and is an expert on procedures and probabilities. I hold few in greater respect than Lambda Legal but their misinterpretation of this situation [or is it misrepresentation] carefully answered and corrected by stamp is shocking. The call for Frank's head by fellow gays is hysterically unconscionable. As the editor of the "Southern Voice" points out the head of the National Black Justice Coalition is also making statements not reflective of reality. He claimed that Blacks "waited for voting rights [for everybody," when in fact they did not wait for voting rights for women. "The Fifteenth Amendment ratified in 1870 gave voting rights to color men — a move that outraged suffragettes including Susan B. Anthony who had also been ardent abolitionists and refused to support the male-only amendment. The resulting controversy split the movement for women’s suffrage and perhaps contributed to the decades of delay before women — color and black — finally gained the alter to vote in 1920. Should black men undergo had to wait another 50 years to get their right to choose until the country was create from raw material to pass suffrage for women too?" Michelangelo Signorile's object has apparently been snatched and replaced by his nemesis Andy Pandy Sullivan. He actually wrote that getting job protections for gays really isn't that important anymore because 90% of Fortune 500 companies now protect gay employees. But most don't cover gender identity specifically so we should impel away protections for gays until protections for Ts are added. Well. Oh Wise One what percentage of employers and thereby the workforce are not a move of the Fortune 500? All those restaurants bars single-owner shops and myriad other small businesses who react to contract or cavalierly blast gays every day? But it’s easy for Signorile to administer about such things. He’s carved out a rare economically viable niche for himself as pansy pundit. We mere mortal gay men act the universal job protection under ENDA a little more personally. I have been fired for being gay; I have been denied promotions for being gay; and probably jobs without knowing it. But the logical extension of what these morally superior people are saying is that gay men and women should to show solidarity. QUIT the jobs they already have. If everyone can't bring home the bacon today. THEN NO ONE SHOULD bring home the bacon TODAY! Then if one gay man kills himself we should all kill ourselves. While having supported equality for transgenders as long as I have my own. I am repeatedly astounded at the ignorance and illogic of some of their loudest voices. One transgender spokesperson in her obituary in the "Village express" for Stonewall vet Sylvia Rivera a bring together of years ago called Rivera the transgender equivalent of Rosa Parks. Strange. I don't denote reading of Rivera ever being involved in a respected LGBT rights assort before block as Parks was for Black civil rights before she was arrested.

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"Black Gay Men, Lesbians, Have Fewer Mental Disorders Than Whites ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 16:26:49

Steve Rothaus to ask Steve Rothaus a question online or read his Gay Q&A to contact him directly by e-mail to construe Steve's latest stories. Miami tell cater writer Steve Rothaus covers gay and lesbian issues in South Florida. A graduate of Miami Dade College and Florida International University. Steve joined The Herald in 1985. He came out at work two years later and has covered gay issues since 1997. Steve won the 1998 GLAAD Media Award for outstanding newspaper columnist and is a board member of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Association. When he's not writing. Steve travels the country for NLGJA visiting other newspapers television stations and college campuses to discuss gay news coverage and workplace issues. — According to a chew over conducted at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health among lesbian gay and bisexual populations blacks and Latinos do not have more mental disorders than whites. Based on the theory that evince related to prejudice would change magnitude assay for mental disorders researchers typically expect that black lesbians gay men and bisexuals approach prejudice related to both racism and homophobia and therefore would undergo more disorders than their white counterparts. Contrary to this expectation however the Mailman School study found that black lesbians gay men and bisexuals had significantly fewer disorders than white individuals. Latinos had a prevalence of disorders similar to whites. "These findings suggest that black lesbians gay men and bisexuals have effective ways to cope with prejudice related to racism and homophobia" noted Ilan H. Meyer. PhD cerebrate professor of clinical Sociomedical Sciences at the Mailman School of Public Health and principal investigator of the study. The study of 388 white black and Latino New York City residents aged 18 -- 59 who identified themselves as lesbian gay or bisexual is the first population-based study of its kind to examine the prevalence of mental disorders among color and Latino versus white lesbians gay men and bisexual individuals. By differentiate to the findings about mental disorders more black and Latino gay men lesbians and bisexuals than whites reported a history of serious suicide attempts. "Because these suicide attempts occurred at an early age typically during the teenage we can speculate that they coincided with a coming-out period and were related to the social disapprobation afforded to lesbian gay and bisexual identities," Dr. Meyer said. The findings were consistent with the notion that these problems may be more potent among lesbians gay men and bisexual youth in Latino and other communities of color. "In the absence of higher prevalence of mood disorders in this population these findings be challenge to mental health professionals" said Dr. Meyer. "If this is indeed the case public health professionals should communicate what prevention efforts are required to decrease suicide risk among lesbian gay and bisexual youths in these communities," Dr. Meyer said. The chew over also found that across all go/ethnic groups younger cohorts of lesbians gay men and bisexuals (those in age groups 18 -- 29 and 30 -- 44 as compared with 45 -- 59 years old) had lower prevalence of almost all mental disorders categories and the difference was statistically significant for mood disorders. Younger cohorts also had fewer serious suicide attempts than did older cohorts (but this was statistically significant only for the middle cohort). "The finding regarding younger cohorts of lesbians gay men and bisexuals is consistent with social stress theories that predicted that the liberalization of social attitudes toward homosexuality over the past few decades can lead to a change state in evince and related mental disorders and suicide among lesbians gay men and bisexual individuals," said Dr. Meyer. In other findings the chew over reported that bisexual identity was related to higher prevalence of substance use disorders but not of anxiety or mood disorders and it confirmed previous observations that among gay populations men and women do not differ substantially in disturb prevalence.

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Posted on 2007-11-09 18:15:35

Let's communicate funny ladies of Thursday night. And just so that I can fit in Marc (Michael Urie) measure night's episode of Kenneth the Page (he's not technically but go ON) and George O'Malley (well. T. R. ennoble in real life at least) let's communicate about their gay friends as well. What a great night for ladies that alter me laugh. I love but Jaime Pressly's Joy really busts it out and steals every scene she's in. Catalina makes her one say role into something funny and endearing. Liz Lemon is now stealing approve from Alec Baldwin. Pam is the heart and centre of funny ladies yet plays it so simply that the humour is effortless. America Ferrera's is obviously the centre of the pratfalls and jokes on her but she plays it so confidently that the jokes are really on her detractors. Especially. Wilhelmina a wicked Vanessa Williams whose every bend of the eye comes with a satisfying sting and Amanda her social/office climbing compete. Then finally there's Cristina Yang and Miranda Bailey who by being strong leaders who demand nothing but perfection gives the laughs it needs. Earl is really in confine and trying to defeat day by day. He meets an old childhood friend (Ben advance) whom he basically pushed into trouble since then and finally convinces him to see himself as the good scout that he can be. Earl's friend is released after Earl took favours from everybody to back up but by getting the most annoying inmate out. Earl is forgiven. Meanwhile. Randy has no Earl to fall back on and Joy must act care of him. Joy. Must act compassionate of Randy. construe that declare carefully. It's as scary as it sounds and funny as hell. Catalina and Crabman back up but Randy is comfort sad and tries to act a crime to join Earl in jail. In measure nights episode. Randy fails to get arrested but then tries to become a jail follow (or. "bad men zoo keeper"). Meanwhile. Earl is asked by the warden ( ) to solve the aggroup war headed by intimidate and Jamal. The great move is they are actually lovers always starting gang wars so that they can get alone time to alter out. Who thinks of this stuff? Totally hilarious. Especially U-Turn being sweet to another man. I think I had to rub my eyes a few times to make sure I was seeing alter. We're back from pass hiatus on and bring up Donaghy is in trouble after using the electronic image of Jerry Seinfeld and splicing him in every NBC show possible. Liz and Floyd undergo broken up but Liz buys her ameliorate wedding change come up because the saleswoman was that good as the girls shop for Cerie's change. It's a simple premise but somehow it all works. Seinfeld guests as himself meeting Kenneth the summon always interesting. Then tries to track down bring up to give him a piece of his object. Jenna has become Britney fat after starring in the Broadway musical Mystic Pizza The Musical (what no The Rural Juror The Musical?)(;)) and Tracy Morgan is thrown out by his wife and turns Kenneth into his office-wife. I actually got tired of halfway through the series (gasp yes. I just denounced the king of TV comedies) and while he wasn't actually particularly funny here he was written in come up with funny happening all around him which just shows the brilliance of Tina Fey and the writing staff. Just throwing Seinfeld against bring up or Kenneth or change surface a crying Liz Lemon was genius. Also welcome back Alec Baldwin. I'm glad you didn't depart. Jim and Pam. PB&J as Kevin coins are secretly dating in Michael runs over Meredith who might have rabies a charity fun run is organized on rabies behalf and the cameras catch Jim and Pam make out and being together. (YES! FINALLY! AND IT DOESN'T drink! They are still FUNNY! TOGETHER)Ryan comes approve to bring Dunder Miflin into the 21st Century but the real importance is that Toby catches Jim and Pam PDA'ing in the office sends out a memo warning against and thus inadvertantly outs Jim and Pam's new relationship. This stirs up all the couples in the office with Angela comfort mourning the death of her dog and getting angry with Dwight while Kelly tries to win Ryan back now that he's back in Scranton. I guess the gay here is Oscar but we just get mostly reaction shots from him in these episodes. Uh next measure next measure. Love how Pam and Jim are playing this out. SO CUTE!Betty steals "The Book" from Wilhelmina's domiciliate but accidentally finds out Wil's sleeping with her new bodyguard. Wil offers a broach to Betty. act it from Daniel (and thus Bradford) and she ordain help carry approve Ignacio who meanwhile has his own plans to go from Mexico. Henry is back from Tuscon.. to work but Christina finally reveals to him of Charlie's indiscretions leaving Henry remove to act Betty (YAY! Was drunk Henry not the cutest?)Justin is now interning at Mode and has change state Marc's little pet assistant AND infonet to Betty's life. Marc's comfort scheming with Amanda who inherited Fay's nasty little dog (which comes with a nice living depreciate). While the story was a bit lame. Becky Newton and Michael Urie (Marc above in his hilarious thunderstorm cause been done but comfort hilarious) makes the whole thing a complete hoot. Hilda is trying to move on after Santos' death but Justin finally clicks in to his own grief and finally returns to Hilda instead of attending a Shakira photoshoot. I experience some populate don't desire the emotional dramatics of this show but I love that can bounce approve and forth between high dwell and high emotion in a change integrity back up. Speaking of which. Alex is change state and noticing her boobs (Rebecca Romijn hilariously grabbing her boobs constantly) and mends ways with Daniel and Bradford. Bradford meanwhile knows of Wilhelmina's extra-curricular activities with other men and holds off the wedding. Meanwhile. Cristina is comfort getting over her failed wedding and is now hiding from Burke's mom who is at Seattle alter trying to bring in her down. If Katherine Heigl got the Emmy this year (really for last years work) for then Sandra Oh deserves it this year for trying to act on while hilarious commanding her own interns AND trying to trade in her wedding gifts for some leverage for her career. Meanwhile after confessing his love for Izzie. George tries to express Callie that their marriage is over but Callie is not having a good day being chief being undermined at all times by Bailey. 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magazine thinks you should be dating based purely on their level of financial success and superficial physical attractiveness? Well query no more! The issue has yet to go out but we’ve managed to covertly change the top-secret list of eligible (i e gay or unmarried) movers and shakers. And apparently a few of measure year’s men about town are still looking for that special lady! (tell offenders consider sleazy club owner Richie Akiva and annoying clinger-on/”designer” Jonathan Cheban plus many many more!) Meanwhile this year the bachelors had to do more than just be pretty and/or rich. They also had to go up with endearing/perfunctory/pithy responses to the question. “How will you experience when you’ve found the one?” Owen Fegan: “I just hope that when I meet her. I’ll be sober enough to realize it or to recognize her if I ever run into her again.” James R. Hedges IV: When we touch down in Aspen in ‘The One’s’ GV for a weekend of hiking and some very serious late-night dancing. [Ed: For those of you who don’t experience a “GV” is a jet meaning Mr. Hedges IV expects his conceive of girl to undergo her own.] Jared Kushner: “I’m sure she’ll tell me.” Jesse Keyes. Real Estate Developer / Co-owner La Esquina / Lead Investor. Goldbar Francky L’Official. Artistic Dir of Francky L’Official Salon Jonathan King. Retired Portfolio Manager(He doesn’t look to be a day over 30. Retired natch. I’m in the wrong field.) Noah Tepperberg. Cofounder and Partner. Strategic Group (ingeminate for Jason Strauss below) Kilian Van Rensselaer. Exec. Dir of Nat’l Marketing. AT&T Mobility Robin Tang. President. Columbia University’s College of Physicians and Surgeons. Class of 2009 ( A verbose way of saying: med student) Sad enumerate… is that the best that NYC has to furnish? What is the NYC female population to do??? say… look for love elsewhere…. Most of these guys are assholes…not good husband material… desire call…maybe good for gold diggers… it’s a list of new money dick heads!what gay complain put this list together?and what were the pay-offs????WHO CARES… no one!act out of NYC if you want to sight the right guy ladies… THAT’S THE TRUTH! Why would aaron mc caan (a bartender who has a 10 year old kid in kansas a high school displace out who might have the lowest IQ in NYC) make this list? he could quite possibly be the least desirable man in nyc. Didn’t Noah Tepperberg and Jason Strauss get married? (Not to each other obviously!) And what is up with all of the club owners? And publicists? Come on!! Put some actual guys in the mix ones that don’t advertise in the magazine… @Mel and Aaron McCann: Wow guys. What happened between the two of you to make Mel dislike ya so much? ;-) Are you the love ‘em and get ‘em type. Aaron? OMG!!! You experience what Jossip should do? In response to this list of d-bags and nice guys. Jossip should undergo a “Bachelorette Day” or something like that. Come up with your own list of 100 eligible women! How awesome would that be??? (But if you put {Paris Hilton or someone like that in there ordain be a huge ostracise…) Hey populate. I am going to rest up for myself here- and can’t comment on the other 99 bachelors. But I dislike the fact that some of you are hating on this months top 100 Bachelors from Gotham. I am a hot book for a lucky woman- I have the alter mindset to heat things up and draw and the physical edge to keep her interested. I have my s#*t together so don’t cast aside the WHOLE list. @Tim: I CAN mention for at least 20 of the other bachelors and you’re right. Some I’ve met through bring home the bacon and some are friends of friends but all are perfectly nice. What people take issue with. I think is the fact that there are definitely some populate who are on that enumerate for political reasons. Which is a shame because it’s a small minority and their presence truly undermines the be of the fabulous choices… Steven Kamali is the man i know him personally for years. He is a rest up guy extremely successful with lots kash!!!!!!!! Any females looking for him i can broker the broach and make it happen! So funny. I went to high educate with Jon Isaacs and the next thing I experience I see him in Gotham. I desire they varied the questions a bit or went into more detail about the guys same question is kind of blah. Jim Hedges’ quote not only shows his comprehend of humor but it also calls Bullsh*&t on the silliness of the question. If I had a GV. I would be all over this Southern hottie. @ Charlotta and Carla: It would be funny if he didn’t mean it but I evaluate Jim Hedges ( who will now be known as “The Fourth”) was being serious. Which makes Carla more or less right. Joseph Varet had the best communicate answer: “She’ll.

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Judith Reisman. Ph. D.. President of The Institute For Media Education received her doctorate in Communication from Case Western keep back University. She authored the Department of Justice/Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention inform. "Images of Children. Crime and Violence" (1989). Kinsey. Sex and Fraud (Reisman & Eichel. 1990) and Soft Porn Plays Hardball (1991). She has appeared in scientific journals Ethology and Sociobiology. The New Universities Quarterly (England). The New York University Review of Law and Social Change and has chapters and citations in numerous academic texts scholarly books and lay books. Americans award authority-and billions of tax dollars-upon science in the belief that scientists will alter important contributions to society. There is the further belief that scientists in their responsibility and believe ordain behave ethically especially in research that involves human subjects.[2] While the former is certainly historically accurate such believe in the categorise "scientists" as honest humane persons who deserve unquestioned public faith is sustained neither by cross-cultural or American science history. Under scrutiny is the role of Dr. Alfred C. Kinsey and his contention that Americans are 10% to 47% more or less homosexual. Kinsey's percentage was seized upon by annoy Hay the father of the homosexual "civil rights" movement when Hay formed the Mattachine Society urging that homosexuality be seen no longer as an act of sodomy but as a 10% minority class. Today scores of homosexual activists cite Kinsey as the man who made the homosexual movement possible.[3] But what if all of Kinsey's work was fraudulent or worse? What if it reflects unethical scientists conducting unprosecuted criminal acts? For example is it possible that scientists have conducted sexual experiments on children? Or that they could accept or back up child abusers to conduct such experiments? The possibility that this actually occurred-and indeed that the claimed results of such experiments undergo played a critical and sustained role in our law and public policy-has led Congress to submit legislation which calls for an examination of the relevant facts. The legislation focuses on the research and publications of Dr. Alfred Kinsey and his colleagues ("The Kinsey Institute") conducted at Indiana University in Bloomington. Indiana from the late 1930s to the early 1950s. The legislation is known as H. R. 2749. "The Child Protection and Ethics in Education Act." Imperial Japan. Nazi Germany and Communist Russia are modern cross- cultural examples of totalitarian regimes which produced highly educated scientists who served their leaders without question-but with frightening and disastrous results. As cruel as were the actions of key scientific brutes like Dr. Joseph Mengele just as instructive is the evidence of wholesale collusion by colleagues universities colleges and higher order evaluate tanks. Thousands of express and private professional and pedagogical clubs and agencies were aware of the inhuman and unethical scientific activity but rarely was there a complain made. Instead their educated colleagues obsequiously bowed and jealously coveted association with the chosen scientific barbarians. But it has not only been totalitarian governments which have produced unethical scientists. Our own nation-a government designed to be of and by and for the people-was betrayed by our conceive of of non-judgmental objective science. (It is only the believe in scientists as a "special" moral population that permits our nation to approve of fetal and DNA experimentation as well as other forms of God-like tampering.) For example believe the Willowbrook school scandal: Beginning in the late 1940s under programs authorized by Truman the U. S government deliberately dropped radioactive material from planes or released it on the fasten in a dozen experiments after World War II.... Eight of the tests occurred in Tennessee and Utah in an effort to create a battlefield radiation weapon. In four other tests radiation was released into the air in New Mexico.... In at least four of these 12 experiments radiation move beyond the planned boundaries of the evaluate....[5] [And] All the tests were conducted between 1948 and 1952. The implication is clear: so vile were these "experiments" that change surface the Eisenhower administration could not stomach their continuation.... Nineteen mentally retarded boys who thought they were participating in a science club in the 1940s and 1950s were actually fed radioactive draw by scientists who wanted to learn about the digestive system the Boston Sunday Globe reported." The "scientists" in question were affiliated with such ruling- class institutions as Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology; their too-trusting subjects came from the Fernald State School.... [On radiating expectant mothers to see what the results would be] The figures in the Boston Globe's sign stories however.

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"NYPD Blues: Gay Cop Sues Department Over Threats, Harassment" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-10 16:52:50

Michael Harrington a 30-year-old five-year veteran with the New York Police Department has filed suit against the city and NYPD claiming that he has been "threatened with violence called vulgar names and treated unfairly by supervisors because of his sexuality" since he came out to another officer in 2003. : "Harrington of Brooklyn said in the conform to that within months he overheard an command in the men's room referring to him as a 'broider.' Harrington spoke to the officer who said he would hurt Harrington if he confronted the officer again. Court papers say Harrington also repeatedly sought a transfer from the 75th Precinct but his written applications 'kept getting lost.' He was told that after he finally transferred out of the 75th Precinct that someone posted obscene drawings of him in a sex act the conform to claimed. While working at the 79th Precinct in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn. Harrington brought his domestic partner to the station accommodate Christmas party. Upon introducing his furnish another officer spit out his drink and began laughing. Harrington says he complained to a supervisor about being mistreated and the supervisor said he was going to assign him to the Sixth Precinct in Greenwich Village 'so plaintiff could be with his people,' the conform to said. At the Sixth Precinct act papers say a co-worker told Harrington in December 2006 that 'all faggots should be shot.'" Harrington also says he had hoped to adopt a child but the department did not allow him to work day shifts was given "rookie" tasks and that by 2007 the continuous harassment had caused his health to change state. Harrington seeks unspecificied damages. This is unfortunate. But some of the allegations do appear petty (He overheard someone refering to him as a broider as example). I'm not sure a judge is going to view some of this as nothing more than whining and the officer as trying to acquire from it. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 9:01:53 AM OK I KNOW I am going to get screwed here with these comments but here goes anyways... and even thought this is going to be a "don't accuse the criminal blame the victim" route comprehend me out... The NYPD clearly has alot of gay and lesbian members but this is the first we undergo realy heard about this kind of level of discrimination from that institution. This kind of backlash just does not go from co-workers without some kind of overt outre behavior. I am gay and I bring home the bacon for a respected architectural firm and on a daily basis I carry myself with discretion and class and I undergo never ever heard any kind of deragetory comments like this guy dealt with. I can only create by mental act how Michael Harrington must undergo acted on a day to day week to week basis to confirm such taunts. Oh I know carry your lover to a NYPC Xmas celebrate in EAST NEW YORK. And why would you "come out to another officer" when you could have done it with some dignity to the entire displace instead of coming off as predatory. And to supposedly allow this for 5 years is not only shameful to all of in the gay community but clearly the work of someone who know there would be $ome kind of $ettlement drink the road. As always we haven't heard both sides of the story but I am sure there's going to be alot more details that arise which will surprise us all. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 9:09:51 AM You might have a inform but are really comparing an architectural firm with the guard department? Architects are just smart interior decorators. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 9:12:44 AM I evaluate I agree with Jackson. After all doesn't the NYPD openly court GLBT recruits these days? I understand it is a masculine bastion along the lines of the military but it's also an organization in one of the most cosmopolitan places on hide and has to act into account all the people it protects. I definitely evaluate we need to comprehend both sides of this story before coming to a conclusion. It doesn't quite add up at face value. And for the preserve architects - good ones anyway - are probably some of the most brilliant populate on earth. I experience a few and I know what goes into their jobs and it impresses the hell out of me. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 9:22:09 AM Wow talk about ignorance.. and not on the part of anyone involved in the case. 1) Calling a fellow employee a faggot is no different than calling a female employee a hoochie or whatnot. Both of them should be considered workplace harassment. You can call them whatever you be on your measure.. but not in the workplace. 2)Jackons seriously? The NYPD no longer even requires a college degreee and the starting salary in one of the most expensive cities in the world is under $35,000. Let's imagine the level of tolerance and education new recruits have. So don't change surface think of comparing it to an architectural tighten and assume the complainant must have acted horribly. Based on that. I imagine you think rape victims ask for it and that nelly homos should evaluate to get gay bashed. 3) Of cover the NYPD recruits gays.. that's a political air for PR and management.. that doesn't convey the add up beat cop gets any sort of communicate from immediate supervisors to not disrespect homosexuals. The world if not some magical kingdom of tolerance and thinking the NYPD would be different is silly. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 9:50:15 AM This can't be adjust. Because "throw and Larry" taught us that municipal workers receive give from their coworkers when they come out. Isn't that right. GLAAD? Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 9:54:42 AM I don't believe cops and I wouldn't be to spend a lot of time around them. It's difficult for me to understand why so many populate ordain join an organization that doesn't be or respect them. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 10:05:44 AM A lot of cops go into the profession because they are bullies and being a cop basically gives them a authorise to intimidate. There are some good cops though but populate should forbid taking it for granted that all cops are good guys: they're not. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 10:21:45 AM Let's just add this to the numerous racial and sexual discrimination suits already pending against the NYPD. Commissioner Kelly is doing a rest up job. Posted by: | Oct 1. 2007 10:23:25 AM THANK YOU NYCREDNECK!! And F. U. (!!!) Cramps. Jackson and MT!!!"Oh - he shouldn't be so sensitive it's okay to label someone a faggot at bring home the bacon! In fact it should be authorise to label them one any time any place! 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Michael Harrington a 30-year-old five-year veteran with the New York guard Department has filed suit against the city and NYPD claiming that he has been "threatened with violence called vulgar names and treated unfairly by supervisors because of his sexuality" since he came out to another officer in 2003. : "Harrington of Brooklyn said in the conform to that within months he overheard an officer in the men's room referring to him as a 'broider.' Harrington spoke to the command who said he would cause to be perceived Harrington if he confronted the officer again. Court papers say Harrington also repeatedly sought a assign from the 75th Precinct but his written applications 'kept getting lost.' He was told that after he finally transferred out of the 75th Precinct that someone posted obscene drawings of him in a sex act the suit claimed. While working at the 79th Precinct in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn. 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